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Issue No 336 Thursday 24th February 2000
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AGENDA
Minutes and Matters Arising
1. News: Preston King, Ruskin's Journey, UMAG, Senate, London Marathon,
Bar discos.
2. Guest Contribution: 'The Austria Debate' by Gerd Nonneman (Politics and IR)
3. Readers' Letters: 'Free lists', Motor Neuron disease, Membership,
Intercultural Cyber Cafe.
4. Small Ads: Accommodation Wanted, Poems needed, House for sale, LADOS,
Iredell Lecture, Massage Couch, Events at the Gregson Items for sale,
Grizedale Bike Ride.
MINUTES AND MATTERS ARISING
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Bath University Ordinances (as amended up to October last) list
membership more or less as ours but state:
"2.2 The Council shall have the power after consulting with the Senate
to declare such other persons Members of the University as it may deem
fit."
They seem to have exercised that power rather sparingly though.
1. NEWS
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THIRTY-NINE YEAR EXILE OVER: Professor Preston King (Politics) has
been granted an amnesty by President Clinton and can now return to the
USA to visit the graves of his parents and brothers. His daughter, Oona
King MP, was delighted that her long campaign has been succesful.
Professor King jumped bail in protest against segregation in Albany
(Ga) in 1961.
He was educated at Fisk University (USA), the London School of
Economics, and the Universities of Vienna, Strasbourg and Paris. He has
held chairs in Nairobi and Sydney; visiting appointments at LSE, McGill
and Bellagio; and taught in Cameroon, Fiji, Tanzania, New Zealand and
Uganda. He is a political philosopher with research interests in
comparative politics and development politics. His most recent books
include: The History of Ideas; Hobbes: Critical Assessment; An African
Winter; and A Constitution for Europe; Socialism and the Common Good.
YESTERDAY'S UMAG was mainly concerned with the Corporate Plan, which
has been streamlined and made more innocuous.
A MAJOR DECISION on whether we try to clamber aboard the government's
new e-university must be taken in the next few months. We'd prolly be
daft not to and Prof Shepherd is almost certainly beavering away
already from down in Cambridge.
LONDON MARATHON: Professor Phil Payne (European Languages), a noted
senior oarsman and footballer, has been challenged by his doctor son to
complete the London Marathon and is in full training. The race takes
place on April 16th. He is raising sponsorship for Orchard Vale Trust,
a registered charity in Hackney which runs three homes for people with
learning and other disabilities. Those who would like to support him
are urged to send their promise of sponsorship and/or cheques made
payable to Orchard Vale Trust to Professor Payne (DELC, Lonsdale
College).
A CONSTRUCTIVE IF TEDIOUS SENATE on Wednesday. Prof Macdonald and OHP
gave a presentation on the new Environment Centre. In answer to a
question from Prof McClintock he said that about 20 of the 50 or so
Merlewood scientists coming are major international researchers, the
others being engaged on more routine commercial work but having
extensive liaisons with business.
Much time was taken up with highly technical matters relating to the
validation of Edge Hill and St Martins and designed to satisfy the new
Quality Assurance Agency. The papers may have seemed in places hostile
and demanding but Prof McKinley spoke efficiently, emolliently and
clearly, smoothing any ruffled feathers. Professor Fulton was also
urbane and positive. (Neither of them did their pro-vice-chancellorial
ambitions any harm at all.) Anyway, approved for five years and the
associated institutions are paying us more.
Prof Soutar asked about the recruitment of Ph D students to the
Polymer Group and pointed out that the transfer to Sheffield was still
not certain. (Sheffield want them signed up by next Wednesday for RAE
purposes, but there is a hitch over relocation expenses.) He received
strong support from Prof Somerville.
Senate was also asked to note and comment on the proposed amalgamation
of Philosophy with our Centre for the Study Environmental Change. (What
happened?)
CONSTERNATION IN SOME COLLEGES over a newly imposed limit on numbers
attending discos. Recent and amended licenses (unlike the original
ones) impose fire-safety limits likely to be exceeded on party nights.
This was first discovered in Grizedale, where the limit is 180. New
Londsale can hold 1000 in floor space terms but is limited to a
capacity of 400 by the exits. The Safety Officer is adamant that safety
limits be adhered to.
RUSKIN'S JOURNEY: Films for the Humanities and Sciences', largest
educational video dealer in the US, are distributing 'Ruskin's
Journey', initially for a period of three years. (They also distribute
the BBC's educational output.) A recent phone call from them
congratulating the producers, who will also receive an advance on
royalties of approximately $3,000. Their web site is - www.films.com
The Tate Gallery also confirmed that they would like to sell the video
in their main shop, and in the exhibition shop during, the 'Ruskin,
Turner and the Pre-Raphaelites' exhibition (9 March - 28 May). (They've
purchased an initial batch of 50 copies.)
2. GUEST CONTRIBUTION: THE AUSTRIA DEBATE by Gerd Nonneman
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Seeing the ad in the latest InkyText for the self-styled Austrian
'underground' and request for financial contributions to an
anti-government campaign, reminded me that Lancaster was perhaps not,
after all, immune to the reigning climate of ill-advised reaction to
the Austrian phenomenon.
This 'climate' was exemplified most egregiously recently in in Sue
McGregor's interviewing on Radio 4, of a Freedom Part representative:
the most striking case of the "have you stopped beating your wife --
and I will only take a Yes or a No" variety I have heard in a very long
time. Thus, Ms McGregor's repeated stress on "Haider's warm words about
Hitler", and her stated view that "we all know what his views are,
don't we?".
In fact, "We" don't, and certainly, on the evidence, Radio 4's
journalists don't (least of all Ms McGregor, who repeats the mistake of
going on two misquoted out-of-context lines). Also, her
headline-seeking question: "so, will the programme have immigration at
its heart, then? I assume that is a yes" (the FP man had not even
mentioned it).
A few days later followed an interview with Robin Cook, when James
Naughtie (spelling?) -- one of my favourite journalists --
uncharacteristically failed to question Mr Cook's indignantly stated
assumption that surely he (Mr Naughtie) must agree without demur with
the view that excoriates Mr Haider as a racist and Nazi sympathiser.
By contrast, almost no-one appears interested in what seems to be the
real puzzle in all of this: just what explains the reaction of the
European governments? That it has much to do with domestic fears (on
the part of some of the governing parties) of anti-establishment
challengers, is well illustrated in the case of Belgium, for instance,
where the now vociferously anti-Austria Foreign Minister is notorious
for his political cynicism and his explicitly racist political election
pamphlets of the past.
There are a range of issues to be explored -- for the substance of
these governments' complaints is largely without empirical foundation,
while there is little 'moral' or legal justification for their action.
(Indeed, if you have had any informal contact with Europe's diplomatic
corps over these past weeks, you will be aware that they are, for that
very reason, by and large quite taken aback by the apparent hysteria of
their governments).
There are a number of scholarly debates being conducted at the moment
on the Austrian phenomenon, by people concerned at the rise of
xenophobia and also the lack of depth to the official and media
discussion on the subject. Sadly, these debates do not, it would seem,
find any wider reflection.
Attempts to look for underlying causes other than the all-too-easy
identification with "fascism" and spurious historical parallels with
the Old Right, have often been swept away indignantly - not least by
the rest of the EU governments and much of the media. This new
consensus of condemnation and misleading parallells fails to get us any
closer either to a genuine understanding or to policies that make
sense.
Economic explanations for the share of the vote for the Freedom Party
tend to get short shrift: is Austria not a model of prosperity? In
fact, feelings of insecurity have grown significantly in recent years,
among the section of the population that has been falling further and
further behind the wealthier two-thirds. Of course this is not the
whole explanation for the Haider phenomenon. But it is a key element of
the enabling environment. In this it is little different to a majority
of other cases where ethnic/ sectarian/ or generally xenophobic
sentiment has been boosted. (The contrary "boredom of affluence"
explanation is not founded on any sort of evidence -- whether
historical or contemporary -- from political science, ethnic relations
studies, sociology or indeed any other discipline).
To this must of course be added what is probably THE central factor:
the desire for change from the political sclerosis in the system of
"Proporz" - with all its attendant corruption, the self-perpetuating
political estabishment, and positions in all of public life and
employment being distributed on the basis of affiliation to the
long-ruling political parties. To the question plaintively asked by
many: "but why did political change have to happen this way?", the
answer of nearly 1/3 of Austrians was not far off the mark: the
political establishment did not offer any other way.
This was undoubtedly a protest vote as much as anything else. But the
fact that many felt justified in expressing this vote by giving it to
the Freedom Party also appears to indicate that they do not in fact see
the more extreme rhetoric of some associated with the party as truly
indicative of intentions.
They may not be all that far wrong here either: after all, as some
empirical research would have shown even to EU foreign ministers:
(1) there have been no official anti-semitic statements (even Simon
Wiesenthal, the celebrated Nazi-hunter, has long confirmed that Haider
is neither a Nazi nor an anti-Semite);
(2) many of the oft-repeated quotes by Haider (such as the one about
Hitler's employment policies) are little more than just that: quotes
ripped out of context and taken as the unquestioned givens in an
emotionally charged debate;
(3) the worst of the accusations against Haider rest upon association
with others, with audiences, and with history -- and by that standard
significant numbers of political parties and factions throughout Europe
would be equally tarred;
(4) there was virtually nothing either in the Party's election
manifesto or in Haider's record in Carinthia that would have justified
putting it beyond the pale -- and certainly not beyond EU rules;
(5) populist political movements elsewhere that resemble the Austrian
phenomenon in many of these ways and in its 'enabling context', have
essentially been absorbed into the mainstream -- not just in terms of
their acceptance by others, but most importantly in terms of their own
mellowing and their adoption of the values and rules of the democratic
game.
However much one may dislike aspects of this party's verbiage, and
however good it makes us feel to clobber such an obvious hate target,
the sort of reaction the other EU governments have opted for, while
understandable, is justified neither morally nor, perhaps most
crucially, practically. It inevitably confirms the worst suspicions of
those in Austria who were seduced by Haider's Eurosceptic tone, and can
only fan the flames of unthinking nationalism.
There is a separate, rather disturbing aspect of this new European
consensus (including especially that among the intelligentsia and the
media): if fascism is (rather than simply anything right-wing one
disagrees with) a political mode where a majority expects unquestioning
acceptance from anyone else, and where it is acceptable to ignore the
voice of, say, one third of the population; if it is a mode where,
moreover, any voices raised in questioning the assumptions of the
consensus can be literally outlawed; and one where this consensus does
in fact achieve a hegemony by virtue of people's fear to stick their
necks out and of a wide-spread unwillingness or inability to think
critically even when it is uncomfortable (and it takes energy at the
best of times!); then the quality of the present intellectual-political
debate is cause for concern.
After all, the subject of the consensus might just as well be or
become something else. It would not be the first time. It is worrying
to observe how easily, in different times and different places,
different ideas become the unquestioned and unquestionable 'consensus',
and how, conversely, other issues become untouchable. At the other end
of the political spectrum, look only at the way ill-founded stereotypes
about 'rogue states' and 'terrorism' have for years blighted the US
political 'debate' on Cuba, or Iran, to take just two examples. This
sort of climate should make one shiver whatever the subject.
I trust these comments do not make me a crypto-fascist and xenophobe.
I would, if pressed, probably identify myself as centre-left,
cosmopolitan, and pro-European, working to try and dispel stereotyped
thinking and xenophobia in my teaching and writing. But the likelihood
that some will nevertheless label me as just that, illustrates the
cause for my concern.
3. READERS' LETTERS
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Did you see the obituary in last week's Times (?) for Tim Potter. He
left his lectureship at Lancaster in 1978 for the British Museum and
became in charge of a department there - don't recall the details. He
was in our classics department?
Peter Vincent
[NOTE: Obituaries appeared in The Telegraph, Independent and here some
time ago. (Ed)]
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I think you'll find the "free list" refers to the practice whereby the
Carleton (and I believe now also Liquid) provide free entry, queue
jumping, and free drinks to certain sabbaticals and others. The
practice seems to have been going on at least as far back as when the
Carleton went weekly (don't recall whether or not the Empire was doing
the same before that - although it wouldn't be too surprising).
There's also the (slightly different) matter of automatic
guest-listing (free-entry & queue-jumping) of sabbaticals at the
Sugarhouse - presumably, regardless of moral rights & wrongs, there are
tax issues involved since it must constitute a perk: I've never come
across any requirement to attend regularly the Sugarhouse socially as
part of any sabbatical's job description - and if they are visiting the
Sugarhouse as part of their job then surely that would preclude the
consumption of alcohol?
Reuben Edwards
[NOTE: I believe free priority admission to the Sugar House is simply
an official part of SU officials' 'package'. But it is claimed bar staff
are a bit miffed at not being given a similar privilege. (Ed.)]
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Thanks for the Inkytexts, I feel more at home already! The new job is
great and has not only got me out of a rut but will look very good on
my CV. It is a very nice area around here and so far the house buying
is going well.
The hangover from the leaving do took a long time to wear off! I don't
think I will forget the send-off I was given.
David Robinson
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re Ruskin Open Evening Wednesday March 1st 6pm George Fox L/T. Has
David Denver's Inaugural Lecture been cancelled or do the people who
organise these events think they are mutually exclusive? I'm sure I am
not alone in wanting to attend both.
Judith Clarke
[NOTE: Me too. Prof Denver's lecture is still on. Prof Hanley greatly
regrets the clash and has apologized to him. (Ed)]
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I may be able to shed some light on the fabled 'free list', always
bearing in mind, of course, that I am no longer present in Lancaster -
a fact which automatically vitiates anything I have to say.
Speaking historically, and as a former 'rogue officer', the 'free
list', as regards the Carleton, was a list of individuals who were
allowed free transport to the Carleton (i.e. the organiser simply gave
them a bus ticket gratis) and were permitted free entry to the
Carleton.
As a matter of historical fact, a number of people on this list were,
in the past, officers of the Students' Union, both sabbatical and
non-sabbatical. It is my understanding that 'co-operation' with the
Carleton's operations was usually the primary factor in being placed on
the list. The nature of this 'co-operation' varied but it is fair to
say that for a number of years the owner of the Carleton remained
singularly well-informed as to the state of Sugar House finances and
any business plans.
A more select list, held in the heads of the organiser and those in
authority rather than written down, pertained to 'free bar' privileges.
Again, this is historical, I do not speak of current practices -
whatever they may be.
I would declare an interest here, inasmuch as I benefited on one
occasion from free travel, entry and drinks. This was under the aegis
of Richard Donnelly-Caine, then the Carleton organiser, and was a
one-off. On one other occasion, I was present at a Sunday lunch paid
for by the owner of the Carleton. That is the extent of my corruption
with regard to the Carleton. To my knowledge, I was never placed on the
'free list'. Unsurprising, given my hostility to the Carleton deal, a
matter of record.
Nick Bardsley
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Many thanks for giving the charity screening of Theory of Flight a
high-profile advert in your last issue. There was certainly a good
audience for what seemed generally acclaimed as a moving, funny and
thought-provoking film. I hope this success may encourage the Dukes to
give it a further screening later in the year. I'll let you know if
they do. Several people who could not get to it this time have
expressed the intention of coming if it is shown again.
Peter Silvester
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A set of points that Gordon Inkster makes with regard to the
membership issue must be answered. Mostly they arise from the fact that
throughout the argument like has not been compared with like. The
University of Lancaster is not RIBA, it is not the GMC, it is not the
RCN and it is not ACCA. Our loss, perhaps, but these are facts
undeniable.
Not all chartered bodies are the same, it is as simple as that. The
attempt to blindly apply a 'one size fits all' definition just doesn't
work.
[NOTE: No, but what they relevantly have in common is a Royal Charter
and visitorial jurisdiction.]
The question is posed, what are we asking for? A suggestion is that we
are asking for 'all employees of a chartered body' to be accorded
membership of that 'chartered body'. Well, no. We are asking for all
employees of LANCASTER UNIVERSITY to be accorded membership of
LANCASTER UNIVERSITY. All that is suggested is that our particular
chartered body, Lancaster University, decide, for perfectly good
reasons, that all employees will be members. I apologise for the shrill
use of capitals, but this point should be stated clearly.
It is then suggested that we are asking this to avoid hurting people's
feelings. Well, I have never believed in the proposition that things
should be done to avoid the injury of a person's self-esteem; I think
that is well known. Why then do I support membership for all university
staff?
It is simple. The point is not about 'rights', visitorial or
otherwise, it is about participation in a community and recognition of
that participation by a clear declaration of equity insofar as equity
is possible in what is also, granted, a workplace.
[NOTE: Though I fail to see how 'participation' is not a matter of
rights.]
Now, the example of a golf club is used. It falls down when you
consider golf club bars and compare them with university bars. (CLUE:
think about who is permitted to enter them AT THE MOMENT...)
[NOTE: Relevance? It's who is permitted on the golf course that
matters.]
The example of geographically dispersed chartered bodies has been used
ad nauseam. It falls down because of the geographical concentration of
Lancaster and the fact that Lancaster is, yes, a workplace, yes, a
chartered body and, undeniably, a community.
Furthermore, the notion of 'chartered profession', waved around like
some rotten Medusa's head, simply does not work. What profession do I
belong to by virtue of my membership of the University? What profession
does any graduate belong to by virtue of this honour? Please bear in
mind that graduates make up the vast majority of the membership and one
would have thought that they might define the 'profession' thereby.
What is it?
[NOTE: Did I say all charters related to professions? Graduate
membership mainly confers a right to vote. Once upon a time it
conferred a right to elect a member of parliament as well. (Ed.)]
It is well-argued, I must confess. But the argument against giving de
facto members of our community de jure membership of the community
simply does not stand up in terms of the specific case of our
university. Why this remains incredible to Gordon Inkster and, less so,
to Peter Rowe, I simply cannot understand.
Nick Bardsley
[I think that's a measured response. Of course, we are arguing along
lines that have very little purchase on each other's arguments.
Unfortunate...but the nature of the beast.]
[NOTE: Well, thank you for the 'measured' character of your reply. I
was momentarily beguiled by your concluding de facto/ de jure point,
but it fails in my view because you are punning on the word
'membership'. (Logical membership of a group or class.) The whole
business is mainly concerned with playing with words which is why,
being interested in giving people tangible benfits, I'm not inclined to
take it more seriously. If you can find a form of words that satisfies
everyone and won't be laughed out of court by the Privy Council good
luck to you and please let Prof Rowe have it at once. (Ed)]
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I have this vision of the Intercultural Cyber Cafe rising in glassy
splendour on the flat roof of the lecture theatre between Lonsdale's
bleak quadrangles.
I see a roof terrace complete with tubs containing grapevines, olive
trees, and permanently flowering bougainvilleas (that pink papery thing
near your office), a sand pit for boules, chess boards, tables and
umbrellas... maybe even a water feature with a fountain and some
goldfish. (Saw one in a pretentious Italian eatery in a shopping mall
in Bath last September.) Climbing roses. Lavender in June/July
flowering profusely. My shiny black cat could be our mascot and grow
sleeker and sleeker on leftover gateaux.
DELC students could have a certain number of oral hours top sliced off
their courses for practising their target languages by acting as
waiters and waitresses, serving long cool drinks to suntanned people
lounging around the elegant tables.
A different country theme every week (like a new country at the top of
the magic faraway tree) - and over it all the grande maitresse d' -
that's me - looking down my nose at the inadmissable footwear of the
people clamouring to be allowed in to sit around under the shady
parasols and discuss Proustian minutiae over a glass of something with
the resident guru - that's you.
And then a tastefully discreet bank of curvaceous computers tucked
behind a raffia screen like the windbreaks on the beaches of Goa (no I
never bin but I seen the pics), where the cybernerds could do their
intercultural email chatting with Year Abroad students away in sunny
wherever.
Can't you just see it? Where can we get the dosh?
Jessica Abrahams
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4. SMALL ADS
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SINGLE WOMAN LOOKING FOR LARGE FLAT TO RENT (1 or 2 bedrooms)
unfurnished in the Lancaster area. Will consider anything so long as
its not too cramped and over 80 pounds per week! Contact: 01524-64003
(answer machine during day)
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GET YOUR POEM ON THE WALL
We are seeking poems to display (A3, laminated and framed) in a
variety of locations around campus. They can be on any subject; they
can be any format; they can be inspirational, thoughtful, witty,
illuminating..... anything at all. The length will usually be limited
to 12 lines - we might accept an exceptional longer piece, but it will
not display as well, so try and keep the length down. All Lancaster
University students, staff and alumni are welcome to enter. The
selection panel will choose the best entries, which will be displayed
for at least one term. Deadline : February 29th, 2000
Submissions to : George Green, Dept of Independent Studies, Lonsdale
College or email an attachment to g.green@lancaster.ac.uk.
This competition is run by the Department of Creative Writing and the
School of Independent Studies, and is made possible by assistance from
The Bailrigg Fund.
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LANCASTER AMATEUR DRAMATIC and OPERATIC SOCIETY
PRESENTS
SEVEN BRIDES for SEVEN BROTHERS
GRAND THEATRE, LANCASTER
13th - 18th MARCH 2000 at 7-30pm
The Hill-Billy farming brothers hit town and kidnap the local girls.
Before the townsmen can 'head them off at the pass', an avalanche cuts
off their route until the snow thaws in the spring! Great cast, plenty
of energy - another Peggy Brierly Production in the GRAND THEATRE,St.
Leonards Gate, LANCASTER. Phone the GRAND BOX OFFICE on 01524-64695 -
tickets 7-50 Circle, or 6-50 Stalls.
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THE IREDELL LECTURE IN HISTORY AND LAW, 16 MARCH 2000
This year's annual Iredell Lecture in History and Law will take place on 16
March 2000 at 6.00 p.m. in the Faraday Lecture Theatre. Professor David B.
Wilkins will deliver a lecture provisionally entitled, "Race and the Legal
Profession: the Emergence of Black Lawyers and Black Law Firms in the United
States". Everyone is welcome!
Professor Wilkins is Kirkland and Ellis Professor of Law and Director
of the Program on the Legal Profession at Harvard Law School. He is a
leading authority on the history of blacks in the American legal
profession and is currently completing a book about the experience of
blacks in legal practice.
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FOR SALE: MASSAGE COUCH, portable, aluminium frame, breathing hole,
'feel warm' material covering, good condition. Buyer collects GBP 50.
phone 734615
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EVENTS AT THE GREGSON
Tuesday 29 February and Wednesday 1 March, performance of 'My Mother
Said I Never Should' by Charlotte Keatley performed by Lancaster
University Theatre Group. 7.30 pm. Tickets 4.50/3.50.
Friday 3 March, the brilliant 'Mellstock Band' at 8 pm. 5.50/4.50.
The Mellstock Band plays and sings the dances, songs, carols and music
of English village and church bands from the eighteenth century to the
present day. With fiddle, concertina, clarinet, oboe, flute and
serpent, the music is enhanced with period costume and spoken word. Not
to be missed. The Mellstock Band have also had their music played on
BBC productions including 'Oliver Twist'.
Sunday 5 March, internationally renowned 5-piece jazz band 'Tongue and
Groove' 'A stunning display of rhythmic musical cross-fertlisaiton from
the worlds of classical, jazz, rock, theatre and folk.' 8.30 pm,
4.50/3.50
Wednesday 29 March, Certain Curtain Theatre Company present 'Children
of the Wolf', a hard edged pacey thriller examining issues of racial
identity and ethnic cleansing. 8 pm, 5 pounds/4 pounds.
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ITEMS FOR SALE: Philips Super Steam Spray iron, boxed as new 10
pounds; Dartboard, hardly used 10 pounds; Bedside cabinet teak effect
10 pounds; Bedding box teak/white 5 pounds; Wooden dining chairs 5 each
pounds; Radiogram 1970's style 50 pounds; Card table very good
condition 40 pounds; Table football 5 pounds, Sindy 4 X 4 car with
accessories 20 pounds, Kettlecar 15, 3 pounds; childrens patio chairs 5
pounds; Tel Susan 423105
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The First Annual Grizedale Forest
Anything-with-Wheels Sculpture Trail Bike Ride
on Sunday 27th Feb 2000
The plan is to meet at the Grizedale Visitor Centre which is right in
the centre of the Grizedale Forest (between Coniston Water and
Windermere) on Sunday morning at 10am (yes 10am) with bikes.
Anybody is welcome to come. I think you can hire bikes from them if
necessary. Tell all your friends! Bring sandwiches / flasks / money for
buying stuff in the VC or a local pub.
Maps available from the Visitor Centre. email j.abrahams@lancs.ac.uk
- or leave a message on 388 207.
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FOR SALE: DETACHED FAMILY HOUSE SCOTFORTH, Lancaster
* 4 double bedrooms, large hobby/utility room, enclosed gardens
* Gas c.h., UPVC double glazing, integral garage and storeroom, fitted
kitchen
* Ideally located in quiet side road close to shops and schools (and with
magnificent views!)
* Excellent order throughout; viewing essential OIRO 185,000
For further details, ring Halifax Property Services (01524 843043)
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